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diff --git a/commentary/orchard.md b/commentary/orchard.md index b3f057e8..2a831335 100644 --- a/commentary/orchard.md +++ b/commentary/orchard.md @@ -10,6 +10,6 @@ StackExchange is not built for bots, and existing tooling for it is not very goo For a while StackExchange offered significantly better chat features than other forums for discussing code. At least Matrix and TopAnswers are now at parity or better, and have less confusing quirks relative to mainstream forum software like Discord. They also make it easy to create new rooms, which is much harder on StackExchange. -Dyalog employee Adám Brudzewsky has [unilaterally changed](https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/57361357#57361357) the topic rules for the forum over the objections of all commenters at the time and all of the forum's most active users. To be clear, this is a minor offense: it is reasonable for a forum about APL to be dedicated to APL only even if it was an abuse of power to force this rule on everyone. However, it demonstrates that the APL Orchard is in practice a Dyalog-controlled forum, and I would recommend using it only if you are looking for a Dyalog-controlled forum. Previously members of the community had discussed moving and experimented with TopAnswers (unsuccessfully in my opionion); this event resolved the coordination issues as forum members jumped to new Discord and Matrix BQN forums. +Dyalog employee Adám Brudzewsky has [unilaterally changed](https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/57361357#57361357) the topic rules for the forum over the objections of all commenters at the time and all of the forum's most active users. To be clear, this is a minor offense: it is reasonable for a forum about APL to be dedicated to APL only even if it was inappropriate to force this rule on everyone. However, it demonstrates that the APL Orchard is in practice a Dyalog-controlled forum, and I would recommend using it only if you are looking for a Dyalog-controlled forum. Previously members of the community had discussed moving and experimented with TopAnswers (unsuccessfully in my opionion); this event resolved the coordination problem as forum members jumped to new Discord and Matrix BQN forums. In addition to concerns about the APL Orchard specifically, StackExchange chat (along with StackOverflow) is owned by [Stack Exchange, Inc](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_Exchange). This company is no longer owned by its original creators, and in recent years has operated in a generally unscrupulous way—which has caused employees with ethical concerns to leave or even be fired, a progression that's unlikely to end well. [This thread](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333965/firing-mods-and-forced-relicensing-is-stack-exchange-still-interested-in-cooper) documents these issues. StackExchange chat is insulated from any such issues by being effectively unmaintained, which is hardly an ideal defense for your community's main forum. |